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The Open Thread for November 11, 2018

A REAL MAN STANDS IN THE RAIN TO HONOR THE TROOPS.  Washington Post: “Early Saturday, the White House announced Trump and the first lady had scuttled plans, due to bad weather, for their first stop in the weekend’s remembrance activities — a visit to the solemn Aisne Marne American Cemetery, marking the ferocious Battle of Belleau Wood.”

The incomprehensible reason given by the White House was that Marine One was grounded due to the rain, and there was no Plan B, like driving the 50 minutes from Paris to the memorial site like all the other world leaders did.   Further, helicopters work in rain, as do other Presidents who were much better men than Trump.

“But the sight of dignitaries arriving at other sites outside Paris, including Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President Emmanuel Macron, led some foreign policy analysts to speculate the U.S. commander in chief just wasn’t up for it.”   Fucking outrageous.  Resign already, Trump.  If you can’t do the job, and sometimes the job requires you to stand in the rain, then resign.

USA Today: Critics denounce “low energy” Donald Trump for skipping World War I cemetery visit.   Ex-Obama aide Ben Rhodes chimed in: “I helped plan all of President Obama’s trips for 8 years. There is always a rain option. Always.”

Mr. Soames is Winston Churchill’s grandson.

“I’m certainly guilty of bluffing and posturing and punking the Democrats. Unless they’ve passed some law against bullshit and I missed it, I’m engaging in tradecraft. It’s politics.” — Roger Stone, in an interview with the Washington Post.   They did.  There is a law against lying under oath.  There are laws against fraud.  There are many laws against the type of dirty trucks Stone practices.  But most importantly, there is a law against conspiring with a foreign government against the United States.

Playbook: “Patriot Majority, a non-profit group aligned with House Democrats, is running a six-figure, nationwide television campaign framing the House Democrats’ agenda before the new Congress. The 30-second spot will start airing on Sunday shows this week, and run through Thanksgiving. It’s worth watching, if only to understand a bit more about what Democrats plan to do in 2019 and 2020.”

From the ad: “We’ve been counted out. Frozen out. And forgotten. By a White House and Washington mired in special interest politics. But we can take our country back with a Democratic agenda for the people. That means lowering health-care costs. Increasing pay through rebuilding America. And cleaning up corruption. And it means having the strength to stand up for our values. It’s time to make Washington work for the people again.”

Andrew Gillum (D) withdrew his concession to Ron DeSantis (R) in the Florida governor’s race on Saturday, hours after the secretary of state announced a recount of their race and two others, CNN reports.  Said Gillum: “I am replacing my words of concession with an uncompromised and unapologetic call we count every single vote.”

“Florida officials said vote tallies from counties… show the races are close enough to trigger a recount,” the Washington Post reports.  “A machine recount and possibly a hand recount will be necessary to learn the outcomes of the races between Sen. Bill Nelson (D) and Gov. Rick Scott (R), who is seeking to unseat him, and between former congressman Ron DeSantis (R) and Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum (D), who are vying for governor.”

President Trump blamed “mismanagement” of California’s forests for ongoing deadly wildfires, threatening to withhold federal payments after multiple blazes killed 9 people and prompted evacuation orders for some 250,000 state residents, Politico reports.

Said Trump: “There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!”

He is such a piece of shit.  Always blaming the victim.  No empathy.  First, he and his Republican Congress cut funding for forest management on federal lands, which, by the way, account for all but 2% of California’s open land.  So if the President is looking for someone to blame for a forest fire, look in the fucking mirror.   Second, these wildfires are caused by dry conditions and wind, which are both exasperated by climate change.  So I am not sure what forest management would work to alleviate those conditions.  Does he think that California should be constantly watering all vegetation in the state?

“President Trump is set to award the Presidential Medal of Freedom — the nation’s highest civilian honor — to the wife of one of the Republican Party’s most prominent patrons,” Politico reports.

“Miriam Adelson will receive the medal along with six other ‘distinguished individuals’ at a ceremony on Friday… She is married to billionaire Las Vegas casino magnate and GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson, who joined Trump for a watch party at the White House residence on Tuesday evening to monitor the incoming returns from the 2018 midterm elections.”

Matthew Whitaker, the nation’s new acting attorney general, “repeatedly chided presidential candidate Hillary Clinton in public statements during 2016 while he was speaking for a group that is barred by its tax-exempt status from supporting or opposing political candidates during a campaign,” the AP reports.

“Before coming to the Justice Department in 2017, Whitaker was president and executive of the Foundation for Accountability and Civic Trust, a charitable organization that styles itself as nonpartisan government watchdog promoting ethics and transparency. The tax-exempt group — known by its initials, FACT — is supposed to serve the public interest under Section 501c3 of the U.S. tax code, without directly or even indirectly supporting or opposing specific candidates for office.”

“Matthew Whitaker, the new acting attorney general, has said that states have the right to nullify federal law, but that they need the political courage to do so,” CNN reports.

Whitaker made the comments during a failed 2014 run for the Republican Senate nomination in Iowa.”

Said Whitaker: “As a principle, it has been turned down by the courts and our federal government has not recognized it. Now we need to remember that the states set up the federal government and not vice versa. And so the question is, do we have the political courage in the state of Iowa or some other state to nullify Obamacare and pay the consequences for that?”

“In the three days after the Democrats captured the House, President Trump fired his attorney general and replaced him with a loyalist critical of both the courts and the Russia investigation. He banned a CNN correspondent from the White House, while threatening he would do the same to other journalists. And he accused election officials in Florida and Arizona of rigging the vote against candidates he had campaigned for,” the New York Times reports.

“It was a remarkable assault on the nation’s institutions, even by a president who has gleefully taken a hammer to the press, to judges and prosecutors he does not like, and to an electoral process he has denounced as fraudulent since the day he took office.”

“Mr. Trump’s actions suggested a president lashing out after a midterm election loss that he had initially cast as a victory.”

“An audio recording that Turkish officials say captures the dying moments of journalist Jamal Khashoggi as he is killed in the Saudi Consulate in Istanbul has been shared with Saudi Arabia, Britain, France and Germany in addition to the United States,” the Washington Post reports.

Said Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan: “We gave it to Saudi Arabia. We gave it to America. To the Germans, French, English, we gave it to all of them.”

“Turkey has not said how it has a recording from inside the consulate.”

“Over the final two weeks of the midterm elections, according to closed-captioning data compiled by the Internet Archive, Fox News and Fox Business Channel each mentioned the word caravan in an average of a little over 3 percent of 15-second segments over the course of a day. In other words, the caravan was mentioned an average of almost eight times an hour. On CNN and MSNBC, the mentions were more modest, but not nonexistent,” the Washington Post reports.

“On Monday, both CNN and Fox News mentioned the caravan more than 80 times. On Tuesday, more than 40. On Wednesday and Thursday, the subject was raised fewer than 80 times across CNN, MSNBC, Fox News and Fox Business combined.”

President Trump “is telling people he wants to replace Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross by the end of the year,” CNBC reports.  “Trump favors Linda McMahon to replace Ross in the role, said these people… He is also considering Ray Washburne, whom Trump appointed as president and CEO of Overseas Private Investment Corporation last year.”

Los Angeles Times: “McCarthy spent the months since Paul Ryan announced his retirement quietly shoring up his support for a bid for speaker among the Republican conference and acting as a top campaign surrogate by raising money and support for colleagues across the country.”

“But some had questioned if McCarthy had done enough to court the most conservative members of the conference. … But the calculus is different for a minority leader race compared with a speaker’s race, which should make it easier for McCarthy to lock it down.”  Why?  Because he only has to win a majority of his caucus.  In a Speaker election, he would need to win the majority of the House and the Freedom Caucus and the Democrats would have denied him.

Washington Post: “It was a major defeat for President Trump, who attacked the Obama administration for failing to move ahead in the face of protests based largely on environmental concerns. Trump signed an executive order two days into his presidency setting in motion a course reversal on the Keystone XL pipeline and the Dakota Access pipeline.”

“The decision, issued by Judge Brian Morris of the U.S. District Court for the District of Montana, does not permanently block a permit but requires the administration to conduct a more complete review of potential adverse impacts related to climate change, cultural resources and endangered species. It basically ordered a do-over.”

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22 comments on “The Open Thread for November 11, 2018

  1. This is for you Cassandra! Maybe, you can learn from this. NOT one time did he mention he was black. All should view this and be thankful that there is a parent out there, trying to make a difference

    • Why did YOU feel the need to make this, clearly Christian propaganda, about race?

    • Why can’t you try to understand what life is like for an African-American? You have the luxury of ignoring race. They do not.

    • Here’s yet another slice of what life is like for African-Americans:

    • You are a special kind of asshat… If you were capable of multi-dimensional thinking, you’d be able to comprehend that it’s laudable for this parent to do something like this with their kid. But what you, despite being the Oracle of Aggrieved Racial Privilege, can’t quite seem to comprehend is the fact that just because the parent & Joshua don’t include a statement that they are black anywhere in their pledge DOESN’T mean that they believe color and race are non-factors in life. You are assuming that because it’s comfortable to you and fits with your myopic American outlook.

      As I started watching this video, I thought of how this video could very well have been Philandro Castile recording a “pledge” featuring his girlfriend’s 4-year old daughter. Then, after the 2:20 seconds of video ran their course, the cop car trailing behind throws on their lights, pulls Castile over and then, 40 seconds later, Castile is shot dead… No one would’ve mentioned being black in Castile’s pledge video… No one mentioned being black in the dashcam audio… But the painful reality was that while being black wasn’t mentioned in any of the videos I’m talking about, be they your “Haha, I got you, Cassandra” video link or my reimagined/hypothetical Philadro Castile video, being black and the risk that society, government, police, etc., will treat you differently because of it will always be an inescapable part of the equation.

      So crawl back in your hole, stroke your Bill O’Reilly and Judge Janine dolls, and remember that you have yet to bring anything of value and consequence to a single discussion here on this site.


    A real man does not do drone strikes.

  3. “…Democratic agenda for the people. That means lowering health-care costs.”

    The ad does not mention Medicare-for-all because Pelosi won’t mention it. So as long as she’s is D-party House leader, we can forget about “lowering health-care costs,”

    • What about Schumer? He’s a bigger roadblock than she is but you never bring him up.

      • You ask “Why I don’t bring up Schumer”. Why are you making this about me, instead of Pelosi ?

        • I bring up Schumer because it looks sexist when you don’t. And yet you don’t.

  4. I’ll never understand why people cite/list a group of women or black/brown people they like as their get out of sexism/racism card. If your response to these charges is to provide your approved list, then I’m gonna point out that you’ve failed the test.

    Anono likes to put up stuff that tells certain groups what he considers to be the correct way for that group to behave. But, heaven forbid, anyone group white men together! That’s not allowed.

    Delacrat’s misogyny toward Pelosi – but not Schumer – isn’t subtle, but he thinks touting Jill Stein (‘Hey! She’s a woman I like!’) gets him a pass. It doesn’t.

    Quick note to Progressives: If you are calling out Pelosi and not Schumer (or only adding him after it’s pointed out – which has gone on for years, btw) then you’re using Republican talking points. You might want to do some self-reflection on why this is.

  5. Sorry, not sharing your belief that Pelosi is beyond reproach does not make me or anyone else a misogynist. Furthermore, I don’t see anyone here calling out Chuck Shumer for much of anything.

    • I never said Pelosi is beyond reproach, but thanks for the gas-lighting attempt.

      • Pandora,

        Rep. Ocasio-Cortez called out Pelosi at her office today, with no mention of Sen. Shumer. You think Ocasio-Cortez is misogynistic?

        • cassandram

          Justice Democrats called out Pelosi today. Rep, Ocasio-Cortez went to visit them and support their protest at Pelosi’s office today. (Although I am not certain exactly WHY they were at Pelosi’s office. Seems that the place you want to push towards your side on this issue is over at the Senate. Or White House.) If you were watching the Twitter exchange between Pelosi and ACO on this, it is pretty tough to see her calling anyone out.

          That wasn’t even a good try.

        • Pelosi’s her leader, Schumer isn’t. Not even a nice try.

          • Oh…. Ocasio-Cortez does not have to call out Shumer, …..but I do….

            • you don’t have to do anything, manbaby. it’s just being pointed out to you what a disingenuous douche you look like when you say certain things. Stop whining so much and either stand by your statements or stop making them. you sound like 45… always crying about how unfair the universe it to you.

              Love schumer if ya want. it would honestly make sense.

            • As ben says, you don’t have to do anything. But you feel some compelling need to come here as often as possible to parade your self-defined moral superiority. Just helpfully pointing out that you’re just as big an asshole as those your criticize. Worse, really, because you’re apparently incapable of coherent thought.

            • BTW, I found those Syrian refugees you told me about. They’re in the Metro now. When I told them you were against the war, they said that made all the imaginable difference in their lives, and it was such great news they didn’t need the 2€ I gave them.

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