Republicans Always Accuse Others Of What They Are Actually Doing

Exhibit A: Emails

In a stunning development that gives the clearest indication yet that at least some in the President’s inner circle were willing to accept Russian help during the campaign, Donald Trump, Jr. released an email chain Tuesday that detailed the lead-up to his meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer who promised dirt on his father’s likely presidential opponent, Hillary Clinton.

In the email exchange, Trump family acquaintance Rob Goldstone identified the lawyer, who he did not name, as a “Russian government attorney” who had “documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.”

Goldstone also wrote that the information the lawyer had was “ultra sensitive” because it was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

“If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer,” Trump Jr. replied. He ultimately brought his brother-in-law, Jared Kushner, and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort to the June 2016 meeting.


It gets better

Philip Bump at the Post just flagged this Trump speech from June 7th, four days after Don Goldstone’s first contact with Don Jr and two days before the meeting at Trump Tower on June 9th.

Trump promises big news about Hillary Clinton’s crimes in a speech on “probably” June 13th.”


You’ll have a hard time convincing me Trump didn’t know. You just know Donny Jr. ran to Daddy after the first email desperately seeking his praise. My bet… Daddy throws his son under the bus. In fact, it would be interesting to make a list of who Trump ends up throwing under the bus in order to save his own butt. Pence is at the top of my list. So is Giuliani.

36 comments on “Republicans Always Accuse Others Of What They Are Actually Doing

  1. cassandram

    I don’t know whether to laugh or cry that after a year of living through every bit of BULLSHIT about Hillary’s emails, the most incriminating ones came from the Trump Crime Family.

  2. cassandram

    I still want to know how it was that 3-5 WH advisors came to give this info to the NYT. TPM reports that no investigation had Fredo on their radar until this week.

  3. delacrat

    “68 percent of Democrats>/i> “say they’re concerned that the Russia probes have caused Congress to lose focus on the issues important to them.”

    “A majority of voters believe the Russia investigations are damaging to the country and are eager to see Congress shift its focus to healthcare, terrorism, national security, the economy and jobs.”

    • cassandram

      It’s abit more complex than that:

      But other surveys have found strong support for the special counsel investigating the Russia probe. A Harvard-Harris survey released last month found 75 percent support for former FBI Director Robert Mueller’s investigation.

      There is evidence in the Harvard-Harris survey that voters are taking the investigations seriously: Fifty-eight percent say they’re concerned by allegations of obstruction of justice against Trump, with the same number worried about possible dealings between Trump and the Russian government.

  4. meatball

    Why on earth would it slow down work on other bills? It’s not like the actual legislators are writing them. Every legislator has a staffer who works on healthcare bills and another that works on taxes and another that works on environmental issues. Mostly legislators spend their day meeting with constituents, lobbyists and making calls for donations. At least according to Senator Franken.

    • Exactly, meatball! It wouldn’t stop them from working on other issues. However, not doing something about Russia’s interference in our elections could guarantee a death to those issues Delacrat claims to care about – because candidates supporting those issues would never get elected.

      For the life of me, I do not understand why he doesn’t get this.

    • delacrat

      People are reacting to what their political classes are saying. If political class from the Congress down to (ahem) a local Democratic Party chair feel obliged to weigh in on Russia-gate it’s inevitable that those polled will conclude that Russia is an inordinate concern, regardless of how “legislators spend their day”.

      • So your plan is to ignore Russia’s interference and keep the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches of government in Republican hands and that will result in single payer and increased minimum wage?

        • delacrat

          Accepting for the sake of argument that there was Russian interference, if 68% of your own party don’t care about Russian interference AND 74% of independent voters don’t care about Russian interference, it’s time for the preacher to get a new sermon.

          • meatball

            Actually, it’s time to exercise representative style democracy despite what the ignorant majority may “feel,” and investigate, prosecute, and sanction those who have broken US law. I can not for the life of me imagine anyone who calls themselves an American wishing for something different. And if Mrs. Clinton had been found deserving of the same treatment by any of the umpteen investigations into her “crimes” I would say the same thing.

            • delacrat

              “… it’s time to exercise representative style democracy despite what the ignorant majority may ‘feel,'” – meatball

              How is that “representative style democracy” ?

              • meatball

                As opposed to you know, taking a poll of the pretty much uninformed electorate. Representative democracy is what we practice in this country. We elect representatives to make decisions for us supposedly after they rather than we weigh the pros and cons.

                • delacrat

                  “…despite what the ignorant majority may “feel”……….uninformed electorate” – meatball

                  Hillary’s “basket of deplorables” comment reflected a similar contempt for her fellow citizens, ….it didn’t work for her. Why do you think it will work for you.

                  • meatball

                    Are you arguing that the electorate is adequately informed? Spend a few minutes over on the Fox news comment threads and get back to me.

                    • delacrat

                      The median age for Fox viewers is 68; hardly representative of the electorate in general.

          • cassandram

            Once again, you aren’t even reading this poll. The poll didn’t even ask if you cared about the Russia issues. Which is how they came up with a result that showed clear support for the investigation, but concern that Congress cannot walk and chew gum at the same time.

      • cassandram

        Local Party Chairs have no legislative power and don’t have the platform that legislators have. And if people are worried that Congress isn’t working on healthcare, then they aren’t paying attention.

  5. “68 percent of Democrats>/i> “say they’re concerned that the Russia probes have caused Congress to lose focus on the issues important to them.”

    What’s the original source for these numbers? Breitbart or Fox news? What are said “issues”? Huge unfunded tax cuts for the rich? Decimating environmental regulations? Trying to sell off the national parks to the highest bidder? Or just the usual monkey business of trying to line the pockets of the people that own them? Watched Nixon come and go, this will be little different, it just takes time.

    • delacrat

      “68 percent of Democrats “say they’re concerned that the Russia probes have caused Congress to lose focus on the issues important to them.”
      What’s the original source for these numbers? Breitbart or Fox news?”
      – bamboozled

      The original source is a Harvard-Harris poll conducted last June. Not everything that does not conformed to your pre-conceived notions originates from “Breitbart or Fox”.

      • Could you please explain to me how one issue you care about comes to be if Russia is allowed to continue to interfere in our elections?

  6. Sixty-eight percent of Democrats can go blow a goat for all I care. Illegal is illegal, and Congress isn’t actually working on anything concerning Russia. So 68 percent of Democrats, Delacrat apparently among them, have their heads up their asses.

    Why someone on the left thinks we should ignore this has been beyond me from the first. Matt Taibbi leftists apparently hate the intelligence organizations even more than they hate Republicans.

  7. I don’t care that Russia interfered in our election process. What I do care about is that so-called Americans invited, promoted, and colluded with them to do so. I don’t want sanctions against Russia, just like I wouldn’t want sanctions against the U.S. when we do it to other countries. But I do want sanctions against those Americans, who border on being traitors and who won an election with messaging that denigrated our nation, which despite our myriad of faults, has been and remains a great nation.

  8. Just a reminder, we’re talking about a country — some dipwad I read this morning said it is “not an enemy” — that has 1,800 nuclear warheads aimed at the US.

    As for sanctions against the US, other countries damn well ought to sanction us for this behavior.

  9. All true. Still the focus should be on what I consider to be traitors, not the country they sold us out to. Hopefully without sounding too much like McCarthy, some things are unamerican.

  10. cassandram

    The country they sold us out to is working at destabilizing democracies around the world. Plus they are looking to hack into nuclear power plants — perhaps to disrupt the power grid, perhaps for somerhing more nefarious. Hold the people who sold the election out accountable, but the Russians are working at messing around with enough of our operation that they need to be held to account as well.

  11. And we could best accomplish that by not having Arnolds in the White House.

  12. delacrat

    “The fact that we’ve spent so much time talking about Russia has been a distraction from what should be the clear contrast between Democrats and the Trump agenda, which is on economics,…when I take a commuter bus back to Connecticut to speak with constituents who may never call my office …they never talk about Russia” – Senator Chris Murphy (D-Ct)

    • cassandram

      So you had to go to anecdotes to make your point. Seriously, go back and review that poll. And once you’ve done that, you need to explain why it is that no one should be concerned that a superpower with a couple of thousand nuclear warheads pointed at us should be allowed to interfere with our elections. Explain why a Presidential campaign should be allowed to conspire with a hostile power to change the outcome of an election. There’s more evidence of Russian complicity and collusion by the Griftus team than there is of the DNC interfering with Bernie and somehow you are completely cool with this.

      It is one more way the GOP has worked out voter suppression of Americans. And this time you are not excluded from being a target.

      • delacrat

        “…the DNC interfering with Bernie …” – cassandram

        Yep …….Shoulda been Bernie….

        • Yeah, and the North should have held the line against Southern racism during Reconstruction. Any other past sins you’d like to address?

        • cassandram

          And the right wing media thank you for continuing to spread their bullshit.

          • delacrat

            So Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Ct) is “right wing media”.

            • cassandram

              Townhall — the place you got the link from — certainly is.

  13. Who does he mean by “we” in “We’re spending so much time talking about Russia”? The media, or the politicians? If he means politicians should shut up about it, fine. If he means the rest of us, my response is he spends too much time raising corporate cash to be telling me how I should spend mine.

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